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The M.V. Kilcrae of Cork, N.R.T. 245. G.N.T. 409. O/N400982.

M.V. Kilcrae of Cork.jpg (42726 bytes) 
The photo was taken at Silloth, in Cumbria  
M.V.Kilcrae By Dave Smyth

I joined this ship as an Able Seaman on the South Wall of Dublin next to Kelly's or Clancy's Pub? 
The memory is going. It so happened it was my birthday the day I joined this ship. It was under 
repair a frequent occurrance on this old vessel. 

The Captain was Tom Roche. The vessel was under the management of Avoca Shipping Ltd. of 
3 Lr. Buckingham Street , Dublin. Manager M.Horgan.The vessel then came under the command 
of Capt ? O'Neil for a brief period to allow Capt. Roche some holidays.

When Capt Roche returned it was only for a brief period, as he then transferred to Arklow Shipping.  
Jon Kellie was then promoted to Captain,  I stayed on with the ship and was promoted to Mate under 
Capt Kellie. I eventually was discharged in Drogheda on 03/12/1974. 

To look at the Kilcrae one would think it was not a fit vessel to sail across the dock in. We all did our 
best to keep her in good order.The Kilcrae was a happy vessel. I had come off the Blue Funnel Ships 
and I enjoyed visiting all the small ports of Ireland ,U.K. and France. The work was hard on such a 
small vessel, but we had a good crew and we shared all our happy days and set-backs equally. 

The cook was Glady's Smith of Sharpness, Glady's Married Tom Roche eventually.  
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(I started my sea-going on the M.V. Munster as a deck boy on  the 18th March 1963, and soon after 
joined the M.V. Leinster in 1963. I stayed  on the Leinster for about a year before I joined the 
Blue Funnel Line's M.V. Hector on a voyage to Australia at the age of 16 years. What an  experience! 
I travelled the world over, including the Arctic Beaufort Sea and down to the tropics and 
jungle of Irian Jaya in Indonesia.
I am still in the marine business as an Nautical Instructor.
My last placing was in Kazakhstan on the Caspian Sea.)

Regards
David John Smyth 
June 2005

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THE PRESS GANGS AND IRELAND

 

In the year 1803 sir william Dillon was posted to Hull as Second in Command of the impressment Service at that port. The Impressment Service was 

the dignified name which the authorities gave to the better known press gangs which operated to force men into joining the naval service At the time in question the British merchant service held a far greater attraction for seamen than did the navy. For one thing a seaman in the merchant marine received 30/- per month as against 19/- if he served in the navy. There was also the fact that the merchant vessels had become very numerous and most of the experienced seamen were attached to merchant ships. 

With the outbreak of war with France in 1803 the need for men to serve on naval vessels was very great and despite the bounty paid to men who would join,  the problem created by the shortage of men was not solved. 

For that reason the authorities resorted to the system of 'Impressment' and so the press gangs became more active at this period than at any other time in history. When Dillon was posted to Hull he found that his superior officer was an elderly man who was quite happy to sit in his office and leave the "dirty work'' of organising the press gangs to Dillon himself. A job like this was distasteful to any officer, but Dillon's loyalty to the service and his devotion to duty made him efficient in the work he had to do. 

Officers in charge of press gangs were called 'yellow admirals', a term which was used to denote the officers' quarantine in a dead end job. 
                                   
                               EXEMPTIONS

Contrary to popular belief the actions of the press gangs were very much restricted by the legal exemptions from  "impressment". All persons under 18 years of age and over 55 years of age were exempt; seamen with less than two years of seagoing experience were exempt and in the case of apprentices those with less than three years experience were also exempt. While the press gangs found that their efforts to obtain men on the high seas were more fruitful than their raids ashore, out bound vessels could not be approached by them. 

In the case of inward bound vessels the press gangs were required by law to leave sufficient men on board to ensure the merchant vessel safe navigation to her anchorage and a safe berthing.  Masters, Chief Mates, Boatswains and Carpenters on ships of 50 tons deadweight or over could not be taken either. Pilots too were exempt unless an unfortunate Pilot happened to run a ship aground. As a result of all these exemptions the number of men available for impressment" was considerably  reduced and the records for 1803 show that of the total men obtained for the navy, 37,000 were volunteers as against 2,000 of pressed" men. 

In addition to the small number of men obtained through the action of the press gangs, the quality of the men"impressed" was very poor and most of the naval officers who were obliged to take these men complained bitterly of the low type of men with which they had to contend.

                       IN IRELAND

Despite the high rating of Irish men serving in the British  merchant and naval service, the press gangs operated  to a limited extent in this country.  

It is oF  interest  to  note that the percentage of  officers supplied at that time than the percentage from any  their arrival at the public house they discovered a wake in progress. However the high spirited nature of the festivities going on in the house made the officer in charge doubtful of the sincerity of the mourners. His suspicions were roused to such an extent that he ordered the coffin to be opened. Whereupon the ‘corpse” popped up his head and leaped out of the coffin with a shriek of laughter. Subsequently the recently “deceasEd” quite willingly accompanied his captors and turned out to be an excellent Seaman.

Public opinion was very much against the press gangs and whenever an appeal was made to the Courts against the decision of the press gangs the judges invariably ruled in favour of the victims, The weight of public opinion, together with the limited  success of the system of “impressment’ eventually lead to the dis­appearance of the press gangs. Few people mourned their passing, but, nevertheless,to­day in countries which are faced with the problem of providing large defence or military forces, the system of conscription which is in itself a form of ‘‘impressment’’ still persists.

We can only hope that the fear of war which makes for coercion of this nature will itself disappear and that men will acknowledge, in time, the futility of war.
                                                                
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                                 THE IRISH STARS

THE IRISH STARS WERE FAMOUS SAILING SHIPS OWNED AND 

OPERATED BY THE BELFAST FIRM OF J.P.CORRY & CO. IN THE 

LATE 19th. CENTURY.  THE FIRST OF THE "STAR" SHIPS WAS 

THE "STAR OF ERIN" AT 949 G.TONS.

OTHER SHIPS OF THE LINE WERE:
THE STAR OF DENMARK:
THE STAR OF GREECE:
THE STAR OF GERMANY:
THE STAR OF FRANCE:
THE STAR OF SCOTIA:
THE STAR OF PERSIA:
THE STAR OF ALBION:
THE STAR OF BENGAL:
THE STAR OF RUSSIA:
THE STAR OF ITALY:
ALL BUILT BY HARLAND & WOLFF IN BELFAST.



THEY RANGED IN SIZE FROM THE STAR OF ERIN AT 949 TONS TO THE STAR OF RUSSIA AT 1892 TONS.  THE LAST IRISH STAR WAS BUILT BY WORKMAN,CLARK & CO. OF BELFAST AND NAMED THE STAR OF AUSTRIA WITH A GROSS TONNAGE OF 1693 TONS AND 265ft. IN LENGTH.


THE STARS SAILED TO ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD  AND THEIR MOST REGULAR RUN WAS TO AUSTRALIA AND AMERICA

IN 1874 THE STAR OF BENGAL SAILED TO MELBOURNE ON HER MAIDEN VOYAGE IN 81 DAYS,  ON TO SAN FRANCISCO IN 58 DAYS AND BACK TO LIVERPOOL IN 111 DAYS.   IN 1888 THE STAR OF PERSIA SAILED TO MELBOURNE IN  76 DAYS.  BUT THESE LONG VOYAGES WEREN'T WITHOUT THEIR DANGERS!!.  


IN 1886 THE STAR OF ALBION WAS WRECKED ON THE BANKS OF THE HOOGHLY RIVER,  THE STAR OF SCOTIA WAS LOST ON THE COAST OF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS WITH THE LOST OF 7 CREW,  AND IN 1888 THE STAR OF GREECE HAVING MADE THE TRIP TO AUSTRALIA IN 86 DAYS WENT AGROUND ON HER RETURN VOYAGE WITH THE LOST OF CAPTAIN HARROWER AND HIS CREW.


J.P.CORRY & CO. LOST ITS IDENTITY IN THE FEDERAL CUNARD COMBINATION IN 1898 AND WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.  MANY OFTHEIR SHIPS WERE PASSED ONTO THE ALASKA PACKERS ASSOCIATION  OF SAN FRANCISCO.

IN HIS BOOK "SAILING SHIPS OF IRELAND" ERNEST ANDERSON SAYS:
"THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPECIAL PLACE IN THE MARITIME

HISTORY OF IRELAND FOR THOSE LOVELY IRISH STARS".

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NEW AGREEMENT BETWEEN
Ship owners ASSOCIATION
AND SEAMEN'S UNION

JANUARY 1968

Negotiations which have taken place, under the auspices of the Labour Court, 
over the past three months between the Irish Ship— owners' Association and 
the Seamen's Union of Ireland were concluded recently when both parties signed a new agreement covering the manning and operation of Irish-owned ships. The formal ratification of the agreement was carried out at the Labour Court.

According to the agreement, the Union undertakes that manning scales negotiated for vessels operated by Association members, will not be higher than those for vessels of similar types operated by comparable near-European companies, i.e. U.K., Scandinavian, German, French, Dutch and Belgian.
                                                            GENERAL PURPOSE CREWS

The manning operation and day to day maintenance of vessels owned by memberS of the Association will in future be agreed without regard to traditional practices or divisions of labour, subject always to the current regulations of the Department of Transport & Power, to which Department the Union will have the right to make representations and recommendations. Arising out of the agreemEnt, a general purpose crew has been agreed on. The general purpose concept provides for interchange ability between Deck and Engine Room Ratings, thus eliminating much tradijonal  demarcation and departmentalisation.

The first vessel to be operated with a gp crew is the new mv. "Irish Elm". which sailed on her maiden voyage from Rotterdam on JanuaURY 20th.                                             
                                                                                             
                                                                                              MORE JOBS

in view of the Union's acceptance of these provisions and in recognition of the benefits   rising therefrom, the Association has agreed to pay the Union a sum of £12,000, phased over a three year period.

The new manning and general purpose crews' agreement will result in reduced operating costs, thus enabling Irish Shipowners to compete more effectively with foreign owners. 
The Union and the Association are confident that this agreement, together with the shipping investment grants recently announced by the Taoiseach will lead to an expansion of the Irish Mercantile marine, greater job security FOR seamen and, in the long term, more job opportunities  on board Irish registered ships.  members of the Irish Shipowners'  Association  arE  Limerick Steamship Company, Wexford Steamship Company, Palgrave Murphy Limited and Irish Shipping Limited.

                                                                                                          JANUARY 1968
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